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If you’re feeling stuck or passive in your life, this episode is your wake-up call.


In this episode, Dr Espen speaks with Rock Thomas, CEO of Rock Thomas International and a seasoned personal development coach. They delve into the topics of overcoming obstacles, taking action, and cultivating a success-oriented mindset. Rock shared his wisdom on how our emotions can shape our habits and actions, and the crucial role self-identity plays in our lives. We even explored the transformative power of asking the right questions to reframe our experiences.


00:00:12 – Introduction of Rock Thomas

00:01:47 – Overcoming Fear and Self-Identity

00:04:21 – Challenges of Passive Submissive Behavior

00:08:07 – Taking Action and Personal Development

00:11:06 – Reframing Self-Identity

00:14:14 – Emotions and Habitual Actions

00:18:14 – Changing Meaning of Situations

00:20:40 – Finding empowerment in challenges

00:23:47 – Embracing challenges and reframing mindset

00:25:11 – Changing the meaning of experiences

00:29:39 – Embracing abundance mindset

00:36:44 – Becoming a meaning master

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Rock Thomas


From humble beginnings that started on a farm just off the Island of Montréal, Rock Thomas rose to the top to become a self-made millionaire, best-selling author, and host of the top-rated podcast Rock Your Money, Rock Your Life. For years, Rock traveled the world to study with Deepak Chopra, Tony Robbins, Jack Canfield, Caroline Myss, Codie Sanchez, Robert Kyiosaki and more. With over 35 streams of income, Rock’s mission is to teach others how to become financially free and live an epic life on their terms.

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